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Friday, March 23, 2007

History Of Religion

History Of Religion

I'm feeling lazy today. So, I am going to post this video showing the expansion and chronology associated with the existing major religions. The list of religions and their founders mentioned in the video.

3228 BCE: Traditional belief based on scriptural details and astrological calculations gives Krishna's birth date as July 19th 3228 BCE.

1991 BCE: Abram was born to Terah at the age of 130. [Gen 11:32; 12:4; Acts 7:4]

563 BCE: The Buddha - Siddhartha Gautam was born into the Shakya royal family in Lumbini in south Nepal. Using historical records referring to Alexander the Great and Emperor Ashoka, the Buddha's birth date is usually given as May 563 BCE.

8–2 BCE to 29–36 CE: Jesus also known as Jesus of Nazareth, is the central figure of Christianity.

570 CE: Sources on Muhammad’s life concur that he was born ca. 570 CE in the city of Mecca in Arabia.

Anyway, watch the video, let me know what you think. Which other religions should have been included in the video and why?


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24 Comments:

Anonymous ted said...

Beep:

Fascinating stuff. There's no paganism in there though, which I found a little disappointing. Being the staple of Rome, I thought perhaps it should rate a mention...

23/3/07 1:34 pm  
Anonymous Little Pope said...

Someday all the world will be blue.

23/3/07 3:14 pm  
Blogger Krystalline Apostate said...

Someday all the world will be blue.
If the crazies don't blow it up 1st.

23/3/07 6:48 pm  
Blogger beepbeepitsme said...

RE: ted

Yes, I think the maker of the video concentrated on the most common largish religions. I like the video though. Easier to get some perspective.

23/3/07 9:41 pm  
Blogger DiscordianStooge said...

Ted: Just imagine the areas that aren't represented as a major religion as paganism. It shrinks as the other religions grow. Paganism waseverywhere until the other gods started butting in.

23/3/07 9:42 pm  
Blogger beepbeepitsme said...

RE: little pope:

Like blue smarties? (M&Ms)

23/3/07 9:42 pm  
Blogger Blueberry said...

Paganism, yes, and maybe the different types, like the Greek and Roman gods, Norse gods, Egyptian gods? Isn't that all considered paganism? That stuff is pretty important.

The most disappointing omission is the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. No respect...

...also The Church of Elvis. That's big.

;-)

23/3/07 10:36 pm  
Anonymous ted said...

Beep: Rome got pretty big though, and it took it's god's with it (and soaked up more to add to the pantheon) as it went. It did give a good perspective though.

DiscordianStooge: Good point...:)

And FSM for sure...

RAmen...:)

24/3/07 1:03 am  
Anonymous Solarius said...

Along with paganism (possibly best represented by lots of multicolored dots, a different color or pattern for each city)? the video conspicuously leaves out Materialism.

A lot of otherwise irreligious people subscribe to Materialism, which could be considered a religion inasmuch as it answers religious questions: what is God? nothing. Where do we go when we die? nowhere. Where did life, the universe and everything come from? nowhere important. etc.

24/3/07 2:51 am  
Blogger Goader said...

Then, are all atheists, by default, materialialists?

24/3/07 3:54 am  
Blogger Krystalline Apostate said...

goader:
Then, are all atheists, by default, materialists?
Most Westerners, I imagine. Eliminativist, at least. Although not all materialists are atheists.

24/3/07 7:10 am  
Blogger beepbeepitsme said...

solarius

I consider the "materialism is a religion too" to be nothing more than a tu quoque fallacy.

It is what theists say when they feel threatened, or, in my opinion, when they suspect that they believe crazy stuff.

Soon some people will be calling everything a religion. I just fed the cat. Is the cat my meaning for life? (It probably thinks so.) Ok, so now cat feeding is a religion too.

I don't know if non-believers, if they ask the question, "what is god?" - come up with the answer "nothing." That seems to be what YOU think they come up with.

And synonymously, I doubt that their answers are that life, the universe and everything, "came from nothing important."

The situation is perhaps, that you believe that if someone doesn't have the same answer as you, that it all comes from god, then it isn't important.

24/3/07 9:08 am  
Anonymous Simon said...

Hi Beep! You want MORE religions? I want you to know that the video was frightening enough...although I liked the tune :) But seriously the way religions spread reminded me of a film I once saw about the spread of the Spanish Flu. And that wasn't half as deadly as religion. But at least I fixed the YouTube. I've got the music going one way...so you can still tap dance...but the video going the other way like a receding tide. It's an inspiring sight...but the question is how will we get to that place.Will the religious fanatics kill themselves before they kill us? Will the religions be replaced by some kind of global political movement...that harnesses science and spirituality...to take the sting out of death...and get people to worship the planet...and see it as our truly eternal home...our heaven AND our hell? Or will the religions of today fracture into small sects...worshipping a whole new set of bloodthirsty and false idols, until religion means everything ...and nothing. And what would this new eco-communist humanist religion be like? Could you be sentenced to spend six months in hell (Saudi Arabia, Iraq etc) for watering your plants on Sunday? I haven't a clue. But as always I'm counting on you to find out :)

24/3/07 9:18 am  
Blogger beepbeepitsme said...

goader

RE: "Then, are all atheists, by default, materialists?"

An atheist doesn't hold any philosophical position by default. But it is true that many atheists would consider themselves to be materialists. Likewise, it is true that some atheists, at least, believe in the existence of the supernatural. I am not one of them.

Is there an opposite to "materialism."? And if so, what is it? Spiritualism? Idealism?

24/3/07 9:19 am  
Blogger beepbeepitsme said...

simon

LOL@ counting on me to find out.

I think that as a species we are purpose driven. Not only are we purpose driven, but we are consciously purpose driven. And because we as a species are so purpose driven, we infer that everything else is purpose driven on a conscious level as well. That might be why we seek to explain the purposes of everything else that we see, hear, touch, smell or imagine.

In other words, if we see ourselves as having purpose, everything else must have purpose. The problem with that, as I see it, is that we go on to imagine that the purpose of everything else is to fulfill OUR purposes.

Human beings as a purpose driven species, are quite egocentric. Egocentricism leads to believing that everything exists to fulfill our needs and our purposes, (however we define them.)

So, the religious upshot of this (which I think is the ultimate in egocentric positions), is that everything exists to supply OUR needs and purposes. Not only everything on the earth, but the whole universe as well.

Frankly, I consider that position to be quite meglomaniacal.

24/3/07 9:53 am  
Blogger beepbeepitsme said...

PS simon

Is religion meglomaniacal? I think so. And if anything is going to do us in, it will be our meglomania.

24/3/07 10:15 am  
Blogger BEAJ said...

I'm feeling lazy too. Too lazy to post. Almost too lazy to leave a message here. And far too lazy to comment on your post.

24/3/07 12:54 pm  
Blogger beepbeepitsme said...

beaj:

I know how you feel. I am almost too lazy to leave a message about your message about being too lazy.

24/3/07 7:41 pm  
Blogger Goader said...

I got nothin'

25/3/07 2:15 am  
Anonymous Little Pope said...

BEAJ, BEEP, GOADER..LISTEN UP:

“28"(AM)Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest.
29"Take My yoke upon you and (AN)learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and (AO)YOU WILL FIND REST FOR YOUR SOULS.
30"For (AP)My yoke is easy and My burden is light."

(Matthew 11:28-30)

25/3/07 4:25 am  
Blogger beepbeepitsme said...

little pope: Listen up -

"Mary had a little lamb,
It's fleece was white as snow
And everywhere that Mary went
The lamb was sure to go." - Nursery Rhyme, by Sarah Hale.

25/3/07 8:46 am  
Blogger Goader said...

Mary Mary quite contrary,
How does your garden grow?
With silver bells and cockle shells
And pretty maids all in a row.
OR
Queen Mary Tudor O’ Bloody Mary,
How do the Protestants Go?
Thumbscrews taught, thy jewelys not
Pretty maids lined up for the blow.

25/3/07 9:58 am  
Blogger Renegade Eye said...

And God created Unitarianism.

25/3/07 11:05 am  
Blogger beepbeepitsme said...

She did?

25/3/07 1:38 pm  

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