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Alice came to a fork in the road. "Which road do I take?" she asked."Where do you want to go?" responded the Cheshire cat."I don't know," Alice answered."Then," said the cat, "it doesn't matter."

"So long as I get somewhere," Alice added as an explanation. "Oh, you're sure to do that," said the Cat, "if you only walk long enough."

"All right," said the Cat; and this time it vanished quite slowly, beginning with the end of the tail, and ending with the grin, which remained some time after the rest of it had gone. "Well! I've often seen a cat without a grin," thought Alice; "but a grin without a cat! It's the most curious thing I ever saw in my life!"

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Thursday, July 13, 2006

Who Said This? George Bush.. Adolf Hitler..Pat Robertson..Or Ann Coulter?

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Who Dislikes Atheists?
"We were convinced that the people need and require this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out".

Who Is Patriotic?
"What we have to fight for is the freedom and independence of the fatherland, so that our people may be enabled to fulfill the mission assigned to it by the creator"

Who Dislikes Public Education?
"Universal education is the most corroding and disintegrating poison that liberalism has ever invented for its own destruction."

Who Hates Liberalism?
"The main plank in the program is to abolish the liberalistic concept of the individual and the Marxist concept of humanity and to substitute for them the folk community, rooted in the soil and bound together by the bond of its common blood."

Who Is In Favour Of A Christian Nation?
"The greatness of Christianity did not lie in attempted negotiations for compromise with any similar philosophical opinions in the ancient world, but in its inexorable fanaticism in preaching and fighting for its own doctrine."

Who Is For Family Values?
"It regards Christianity as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the basis of national life"

Who Hates Blasphemy?
"Anyone who dares to lay hands on the highest image of the Lord commits sacrilege against the benevolent creator of this miracle and contributes to the expulsion from paradise."

Who Hates Secularism?
"Secular schools can never be tolerated because such schools have no religious instruction, and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith."

Who Believes That Might Makes Right?
"Always before God and the world, the stronger has the right to carry through what he wills."

Who Protects Free Enterprise?
"We stand for the maintenance of private property. We shall protect free enterprise as the most expedient, or rather the sole possible economic order."

Who Is A Fundamentalist Christian?
"In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and of adders."

Who Loves Jesus?
"I recognize more profoundly than ever before - the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice."

Who Hates Sin?
"Blood sin and desecration of the race are the original sin in this world and the end of a humanity which surrenders to it."

Who Is Concerned With Morality?
"Theater, art, literature, cinema, press, posters, and window displays must be cleansed of all manifestations of our rotting world and placed in the service of a moral, political, and cultural idea."

Who Hates The Left?
"For not only are we ourselves aware of the element of weakness lying in our democrats, pacifists, and centrists; it is recognized even more by foreign countries, which measure the value of a possible alliance with us according to the weight of this burden."

Who Hates Communists?
"We have been engaged in a heroic struggle against the Communist threat to our nation, against the subversion of our culture, the destruction of our art and the corruption of our public morality. We have put an end to atheism and blasphemy.

Who Hates Prostitution?
"Prostitution is a disgrace to humanity, but it cannot be eliminated by moral lectures, pious intentions, etc.; its limitation and final abolition presuppose the elimination of innumerable preconditions."

Who Supports Stay At Home Moms?

"For her world is her husband, her family, her children, and her home. But what would become of the greater world if there were no one to tend and care for the smaller one? The great world cannot survive if the smaller world is not stable. We do not consider it correct for the women to interfere in the world of the man. We consider it natural if these two worlds remain distinct."

Who Believes Men Are More Intelligent Than Women?

"Love and devotion to a man are the highest virtues in a woman. Intelligence is not very important. My mother was certainly no genius, but she gave a great son to the people."


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20 Comments:

Blogger MichaelBains said...

Hey!

Heheheh...

13/7/06 10:42 am  
Blogger beepbeepitsme said...

Did you see the answers? lol

13/7/06 1:42 pm  
Blogger Caribou said...

Thanks for dropping by my blog and leaving that deeply philosophic question.

Oh, I have wondered about why some people perceive religious images in clouds and on other implausible survaces, some disgusting. I can't believe that you brought that up because I have not-so-seriously considered creating a blog called "Name that Cloud." The tag line was going to be "If you are one of those people who sees JC on grilled cheese sandwiches or in damp, slimy, disgusting spots under bridges, please don't play this game."

Now that the Vogon is out of the bag, I may have to reconsider it with more Deep Thought.

I must be a theist because I've never been able to see the images even when they've been forcefully pointed out to me by true believers

I've been to your blog many times and enjoy it very much. I've had a Babel fish in my ear for years. Ever since I watched the British TV series Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. One of my favourite all time favourite TV shows along with Dr. Who (every one of him.) Too bad the recent big budget movie didn’t live up to the same high standards set by the TV series. I re-read the quintrilogy (does that make sence or does it really matter?) of Hitchhiker books once a year as therapy. I am a HUGE fan of Douglas Adams.

The Word Verification to let me post this comment is "cyimz." I couldn't find the definition for it in the Guide. Perhaps your's is more up to date. Mind checking to see if you can find the definition?

13/7/06 9:09 pm  
Anonymous Jeff said...

Who said the following, an atheist or Hitler?:

"Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure."


"The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death.... When understanding of the universe has become widespread... Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity.... Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity.... And that's why someday its structure will collapse.... ...the only way to get rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little.... Christianity the liar.... We'll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State."

"The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity."


Answer: Hitler.

13/7/06 11:15 pm  
Blogger beepbeepitsme said...

RE the troll:

The quotes from "Table Talk" are highly speculative concerning their accuracy.

The actual conversations in "Hitler's Table Talk" were recorded by civil servants Heim and Piker, and the latter complained that "no confidence" could be placed in Martin Bormann's edited versions of them.

Bormann took all the manuscripts for himself, produced edited versions, and then destroyed the originals.

Given Bormann's suspicious editorial activities, his uncorroborated versions of those conversations cannot be considered credible evidence.

The harsh reality is that there is no credible evidence whatsoever for the notion that Hitler was not a Christian.

He might not have practiced your next-door neighbour's version of Christianity, but based on all credible sources including his own seminal Mein Kampf, he did believe in Jesus Christ, the supreme being, Heaven and Hell, divine judgement, expulsion from paradise, etc.

14/7/06 9:31 am  
Blogger beepbeepitsme said...

RE caribo:

I hope I didn't offend you with my comment. As I certainly didn't intend to, but I was wondering about why people see certain images.

I think people see "patterns" in clouds, water, walls.. all sorts of things because we are pattern seeking animals. We actively search for the familiar.

People can only see concepts/ patterns with which they are familiar; of which they have an abstract concept.

It stands to reason then that people would envisage shapes which fit their known concepts?

I guess I really just am trying to explain why some people when they see jesus' face on a cheese sandwich, image that it is a sign from jesus, rather than it is a sign that they have a "concept of jesus."

14/7/06 9:41 am  
Blogger Caribou said...

You haven't offended me at all. I was just amazed that you mentioned that, at about the same time I was considering a blog about images in clouds. I agree with you wholeheardedly. I've considered myself an agnostic for quite awhile. After listening and watching all the shit that is going on with the righteous right this last six years I'm fast turning towards being an athiest. If there was a god, he'd sure as hell bring down his wrath on all those highjackers of the faith and he most surely would never let the faithful go to war in his name.

In my comments I was trying to be funny, but I guess I didn't do a good job of it. I think my attempt at humour is a little too fawltytoweresque at times.

I truly enjoy reading all of your posts and I am adding a link to your blog to my blogs.

14/7/06 11:15 am  
Anonymous godlesscod said...

Most people have seen images in clouds, even in curtains, from faces to trains - it most certainly has to do with pattern recognition. It maybe a similar process to word recognition:

I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid. Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh? yaeh and I awlyas thought slpeling was ipmorantt!


As for Hitler:
"If in Germany before the War religious life for many had an unpleasant aftertaste, this could be attributed to the abuse of Christianity on the part of a so-called 'Christian' party and the shameless way in which they attempted to identify the Catholic faith with a political party."

"Worst of all, however, is the devastation wrought by the misuse of religious conviction for political ends. In truth, we cannot sharply enough attack those wretched crooks who would like to make religion an implement to perform political or rather business services for them."

"which make this kind of religion seem positively monstrous according to Aryan conceptions. The best characterization is provided by the product of this religious education, the Jew himself. His life is only of this world, and his spirit is inwardly as alien to true Christianity as his nature two thousand years previous was to the great founder of the new doctrine. Of course, the latter made no secret of his attitude toward the Jewish people, and when necessary he even took to the whip to drive from the temple of the Lord this adversary of all humanity, who then as always saw in religion nothing but an instrument for his business existence. In return, Christ was nailed to the cross, while our present-day party Christians debase themselves to begging for Jewish votes at elections and later try to arrange political swindles with atheistic Jewish parties - and this against their own nation."

"Secular schools can never be tolerated because such schools have no religious instruction, and a general moral instruction without religious foundation is built on air; consequently all character training and religion must be derived from faith." - Adolph Hitler, on signing the Nazi-Vatican Concordat.

Today we have Pope Benedict XVI who is also waging a merry war against Secularism:

Pope's Trip to Spain to Further Efforts Against Secularism - http://www.voanews.com/english/2006-07-07-voa22.cfm

Hitler was most certainly a Christian. He defended the faith and criticised those Christians who debased it - just like many Christians do today.

Hitler also probably believed that he was the second coming:

". . . the luxury, the perversion, the iniquity, the wanton display and the Jewish materialism disgusted me so thoroughly that I was almost beside myself. I nearly imagined myself to be Jesus Christ when he came to his Father's Temple and found the money changers." Eckart described Hitler as "brandishing his whip and exclaimed that it was his mission to descend upon the capital like a Christ and scourge the corrupt." - Adolfs close friend and mentor Dietrich Eckart

If Hitler had won the war, no doubt Christianity would have been reinvented, history would have been rewritten, Hitler would have probably been portrayed as a saint or a saviour. Nazi Christianity would have become just
another branch of the Christian family tree.

14/7/06 12:25 pm  
Blogger beepbeepitsme said...

Great post, ty COD :)

14/7/06 1:13 pm  
Blogger beepbeepitsme said...

RE caribou:
Thanks for the link mate :)

14/7/06 2:02 pm  
Anonymous Jeff said...

Show me literature that wasn't suspect, beep. It was all propaganda meant to illicit a certain response. Justifying the murder of millions of Jews because they murdered Jesus was a convenient excuse, so Hitler called himself a Christian to certain audience members. However in private, he held great contempt for the Faith.....To suggest otherwise is disingenuous....

14/7/06 2:37 pm  
Blogger beepbeepitsme said...

RE the troll:

We don't know with any degree of accuracy what Hitler's private thoughts were. The articles from "Table Talk" certainly have a problem with veracity. If they have a problem with veracity, they have a problem with credibility.

Martin Bormann was Hitler's private secretary and he was non-religious. He wished to make it appear as if Hitler shared his views, and his accounts of Hitler's opinions vary wildly and suspiciously from ALL other opinions and ALL other evidence.

Only the "edited private thoughts" of hitler (compiled by Bormann) which came to light after he was dead, contradict the hundreds of speeches, documents, radio boradcasts which are corroborated by multiple sources.

Many anti-Christian quotes attributes to Hitler actually came from Bormann himself (for example, Bormann once said that "one can either be a German or a Christian, but not both", and overzealous Christian apologists have widely promoted the "mistaken" impression that the quote came from Hitler himself).

"Table Talk" as evidence that Hitler hated christianity has only been considered a credible document by christian apologists who wish to play the game of " hitler wasn't a nice person, so he couldn't have been a christian."

Information IS suspect if it doesn't have other sources which corroborate it.

This is why science, for example, depends peer review.

14/7/06 2:58 pm  
Anonymous Pablo said...

Hi, Beep;
Your posts are great! Thanks for share your thoughts with us. And thanks for the incredible patience you show when answering to your regular troll.
I know I couldn't do that!

15/7/06 12:29 am  
Blogger beepbeepitsme said...

TY pablo :)

15/7/06 8:12 am  
Anonymous Jeff said...

Interesting, pablo also seem to be under the sad and close minded view that having a difference of opinion makes one a troll. Well pablo, that is your opinion and while I find it sad and close minded, I won't be calling you a troll for having it. Perhaps beep is a little more open minded than I give her credit for? ;)

15/7/06 12:19 pm  
Blogger beepbeepitsme said...

RE the troll:

Open - minded? About you? No.

I tolerate your presence because people like to read your simple-minded replies.

16/7/06 1:10 am  
Anonymous Jeff said...

What does that tell you about your target audience? Hmmmmm?

16/7/06 9:11 am  
Blogger beepbeepitsme said...

I don't have a target audience, I just have a troll.

16/7/06 10:34 am  
Blogger Delta said...

Nice post beepbeepitsme. I knew none of them were Ann Coulter because she doesn't have the ability to use some of the larger words in the quotes ;)

19/7/06 11:25 am  
Blogger beepbeepitsme said...

RE delta:
That might be so, lol.

19/7/06 10:53 pm  

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